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seal amp and sfa (among others) now illegal software

 
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2002 2:50 am    Post subject: seal amp and sfa (among others) now illegal software Reply with quote

Since the royalties surrounding mp3 patents have changed use of decoders in free/opensource software now costs $0.75 per player and i dont think we can afford that. but if we get OGG for SFA that should help, and i'm sure someone will host a binary of SFA's mp3 module away from the main project site.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2002 5:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, all ppl having these licenses that were free are now getting their money

they are crazy, really
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2002 7:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

not crazy, just money hungry.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2002 7:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I heard about that...

Well, unless I'm specifically asked, I will not remove SFAMP3.XDL from SEAL or my own MP3 player for GEM, GEMP3, from my site.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2002 8:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

absoloutely, providing they come to us direct rather than going to sourceforge and getting them to nuke the project there and then with no warning, which of course they can do after that T+Cs chage a while back.

if they come to us direct then we can get a little publicity out of it as well.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2002 1:37 pm    Post subject: GIF and MP3 Reply with quote

That's low....not even Microsoft charges for WMA....

So up on my $#!+list are

  • Unisys
  • Fraunhoffer
  • Symantec
  • Microsoft (always been there)


Who's next! Bring it on!
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2002 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

apple and adobe would be my next additions to that list.

Microsoft only give their WMA tech away free* because they don't have an awful lot of uptake yet, if WMA now takes over from MP3 then they will probably start charging, i wish more people would start using OGG.

this probably wont actually cause the best windows player any trouble, i'm sure AOL/Time Warner will pay winamps $50,000 fees. as for all the opensource players, who knows...








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PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2002 7:18 pm    Post subject: I Read the article Reply with quote

....and it says they won't charge unless you are selling your player...so maybe SFAMP3.DLX could be released as binary only and avoid fees. Ogg would be preferred though, as always.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2002 1:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

misinformation, aparantly it's still ok for free software, they simply removed the clause stating that.....

http://newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=02/08/29/1633205&mode=nested&tid=17

why would a binary only version be safe? surely a source only version would be safe, thats the way most places handle BladeEnc, changing the license to a custom version of the GPL with a few modifications around the rights to sell area may be another way around the GPL/MP3 license clash.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2002 8:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm currently busy with some paid () PHP work, but I will soon update my Ogg Vorbis driver for SFA so it uses a new, better, Vorbis-to-Allegro library and implements more features.

I recently encoded a whole bunch of Ogg files - it's much higher quality than MP3. I encoded at 224kbps, and encoded some songs that I already had in MP3 in Ogg. The Ogg versions were much better. I also encoded a song at 32kbps in both MP3 and Ogg Vorbis, and the Vorbis version was much higher quality.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2002 8:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It seems that the license only changed for hardware, if I refer to the excellent (dutch) hardware site tweakers.net

For open-source there are no restrictions placed
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2002 8:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The licenses and so on have always been there, but Thompson are now clamping down on non-payment, it seems.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2002 9:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seal 2 is under french laws. And in france software / format patents are forbidden. So no problem
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2002 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since when it is??
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