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PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2003 3:53 pm    Post subject: Linux driver on seal Reply with quote

Why you don't Use Linux driver developpement and librairies on SEAL!
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2003 1:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What do you mean ?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2003 4:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hmmm, yes, what do you mean?
do you not understand what SEAL is?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2003 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I no that SEAL is a GUI... but for a GUI you have
to developp driver like driver for:
soundcard
video card
printer
usb...

If we open channel with linux driver develloper this task will be easy...
I think we can be inspire by linux driver source code and librairies...

Steve
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2003 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the idea is that the GUI will run atop DOS, Linux and windows, it is written using the Allegro library which includes sound card support, Vesa graphics on DOS, directFB and X on *nix, etc.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2003 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't say that we have to abandon allegro...
Linux is a good example of open source driver dev...
If some device like usb, soundcard(I don't no if Alegro support card like sound blaster platinium), modem(now linux support winmodem), printer(now linux support win printer)...

What i mean is not that Seal becaume a Linux GUI but
that seal take some source code and librairies of linux
driver developpment that alegro does'nt support...

But it's just a suggestion I'm not a good programmer but
I no that's possible.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2003 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok you say that SEAL is a "a top" GUI...
for example me I use SEAL on dos...
My soundcard is not compatible with dos
for the moment or with a emulator of SB16(sucks!!!)
so i can't use my sound card 100%

***I no that Linux is compatible with my soundcard...***

Why we don't use source code of for example
sound blaster platinium 5,1 sound driver...
And put it on the source code of Seal...

Like that, my sound blaster platinium will work...

And i'm sure that i'm not the only one in this situation...
A lot of graphic card are not vesa compatible...

And i think this is the begining... of the DOS return... (ok ahahahaha)
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2003 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Again, SEAL is _not_ an Operating System. The device drivers that you list are for the operating system. SEAL can use them (through Allegro) if the underlying OS supports it.

Unfortunately, the current codebase is not exactly portable, and thus fails to compile on Linux.

If we can get SEAL to run under Linux (or Windows), then SEAL can use tons of stuff because of the underlying OS (networking comes to mind).

What you can do is to _atleast_ get the code to compile on Linux. I believe it references some include files (like pc.h, conio.h) which do not exist on unices.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2003 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes but the DOS user... if he don't have windows or Linux... try to consider this project not just for programmer... try to consider seal user like client... normal person that want alternative GUI for DOS...

The SEAL projetc is a ***Modern GUI*** for dos...
You want to wait till freedos developper bild modern driver for FreeDos? or do like Microsoft billd driver for a GUI?

I like the Seal projetc but I think this kind of debate will determine the futur of SEAL.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2003 11:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

most of the hardware needs to be supported by DOS before SEAL can touch it, putting in support from Alsa wouldn't be easy, it'd be too big, for a start, to be sensibly packaged with SEAL as for graphics drivers from linux, what drivers? linux isn't graphical, Xfree86 has it's own driver modules, but then there's the issue of implementing Xwindows on DOS, whats the point?!!!!!!

if you can do it go on, but i don't think anyone here believes they can.
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