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oracle_soul



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2001 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just a comment, but if one purpose of Seal is to be a GUI on top of a DOS (possibly FreeDOS), should not the filenames of the files and directories be in the 8.3 filename format?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2001 7:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've use Long File names because some drivers allowed it (such as DOSLFN)...

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2001 8:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I personally am very wary of running things like LFNDOS, etc, as it'd be a catastrophe for me if something messed up the FAT, etc, and caused data loss.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2001 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i wish freedos had lfn support...RXDOS does...as does PDOS
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2001 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Posted by: Bad Sector

RxDOS has a very bad FAT support ... in all FATs. It messed up my old harddisk and i lost many things.

I agree with Soul... filenames MUST be in 8.3 format.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2001 1:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can do what Bad Seal does and have a DESKTOP.INF file and/or section in the link file which specifies a "friendly" name for the item (I'm thinking of the Start menu here, or whatever it is to be called )

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2001 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hum... Bad Seal was the 1st with nice names ... but i added icons

the new DOSFLN is very good ... it have been updated few days ago.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2001 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"the new DOSFLN is very good ... it have been updated few days ago."

But most DOS users haven't long file name support (and personally i don't want to use an external LFN driver).
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2001 12:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the best way to deal with this would be similar to how
Calmira (the Win95 shell for Win3.1) does. It uses 4DOS compatible DESCRIPT.ION files to store long filenames. If the long filename is present, that is displayed, else the 8.3 name is displayed..

Another way would be like I am using for SmallDesk, where the long filename is stored in shortcut files.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2002 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Posted by: joBlo

it is a good idea to support LFNs, but they should be supported as a sort-of autoload thing, so you don't need to load any other dumb junk first, like lfndos. you can still use lfndos (though i haven't had any results with it), but make it load as seal loads. i don't exactly know what the big problem is about lfn support, it's just another entry in the directory structure, isn't it? Since Seal is such a perfect mix of Mac, Win, and Linux, and they all have long filenames, shouldn't Seal support them too?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2002 9:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Something like LFNDOS should NOT be loaded when SEAL loads. As I said, I'm a bit wary of running these types of applications just in case anything went wrong.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2002 7:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Since Seal is such a perfect mix of Mac, Win, and Linux"
what gave you that idea, i have never seen anyone suggest that it is.

Long File Name support for DOS has a nasty tendancy to nuke the VFAT if anything goes wrong.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 30, 2002 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ROM-DOS has a very good LFN support(I have tried it).
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