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PostPosted: Sat Jan 25, 2003 4:56 pm    Post subject: Damn...been awhile..` Reply with quote

Hey,

Look's like there's been a few change's!

Congrat's XDuffy.

Anyway's... I was wondering, what would happen if I just compiled the source as is under linux? Would it get seriously screwed up? What change's would be needed?

I found a good c tutorial, and I'm starting to read it now. I would like to try and help with a linux version, since it's the main OS I use now. KDE is nice, but a little slow and bloated. I like the seal GUI. Looks good. Very good. So I was thinking, hell... maybe I should give it a shot and help with a linux version of seal.

If you could just list what need's to be done to get it working on linux, hopefully without X. Maybe, thing's I should look into and learn more about, that'd be great.

Nice to see you guy's haven't given up on seal.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 26, 2003 3:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

well, no, you can't easily compile on Linux with SEAL2 sources, for a start the makefiles will need modifying, even then it simplt isn't portable enough to get working on linux, however, you could compile S3 if you feel like it, but anyway, as a beginner dont jump into anything too complicated, you also need to compile the libraries used by SEAL.

so, when did you make the switch? which distro? why KDE
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 26, 2003 4:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Even thought its hard to port seal today, we will work towards portability That's a good goal, because when you write code for portability you have to think and write good code... and that's good for Seal
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 26, 2003 5:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BiggyP,

Made the switch cuz WinXP sux... That and microsoft is comming up with alot of crap I don't really care for to much. Picked mandrake cuz a magazine had the disc's, and KDE was the default GUI, also the best out of the other's I tried.

I'll look into compiling S3 and see what happen's...


XDuffy,

I'll look through the forum's for all the old idea's for a linux seal and check into them some more. Seal app's should work just fine either way, right? Doesn't matter if seal is running on dos or linux.... I hope lol
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 26, 2003 7:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The VFS would need recoding first.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 26, 2003 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, they would need to get recompiled, though not really changed...

And thanks by the way
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 26, 2003 11:50 am    Post subject: Re: Damn...been awhile..` Reply with quote

JGX22 wrote:
Anyway's... I was wondering, what would happen if I just compiled the source as is under linux? Would it get seriously screwed up? What change's would be needed?


Assuming you are referring to SEAL 2.x, it simply wouldn't work. A lot of the code would compile, but a lot wouldn't.

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Nice to see you guy's haven't given up on seal.


I think I might have a shot at rewriting my Ogg Vorbis driver for SFA tonight, just for something to do, and because I have so many Oggs now.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 26, 2003 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Orudge,

Yeah, that'd be cool. I saw those two you posted on the forum's.... Pretty amazing being able to make a song that small.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2003 4:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I ran the makefile for Seal, the ogg drivers wouldn't compile... i don't know why, i haven't looked into that, but that's the only thing left that doesn't work rightaway anymore...

All widgets are now skinned with the new system, some cleanup could be done, but it works fine.
Scrollbar will be skinned too, in the same fashion as in CubeOS though we really don't share any code with CubeOS since it uses the old skinning system.

And maybe something more, though I don't remember that right now...

My gf has just gone to India, so now I have more time for Seal...

/dave
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2003 7:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

positioning of widgets on the title bar is a little odd in the version you sent me, just a thought, would it be possible to make a skin convertor that we could just feed old skins into and convert them?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2003 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

_xduffy_ wrote:
Well, they would need to get recompiled, though not really changed...

And thanks by the way


Gee, you have to rewrite (not all) it because it uses the FAT32 system and Linux uses EXT2. Many things would need to be done for compatibility. DLXgen would give thousandws of errors too. Thats why i suggested SXLGEN.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2003 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it uses FAT, not FAT32 in particular.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2003 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Gee, you have to rewrite (not all) it because it uses the FAT32 system and Linux uses EXT2. Many things would need to be done for compatibility. DLXgen would give thousandws of errors too. Thats why i suggested SXLGEN.


I meant the programs, not Seal itself... The programs are using the libs that Seal provides, so yes, Seal have large portitions that would need a rewrite, but not the programs, as i said...
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2003 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just thought of something.... If QubeOS is dead, which it look's that way. Maybe I could ask whatshisname (really can't remember) if I could continue the linux version. Since it's based on seal code to some extent, I could use the source's from LinQube to get seal running on linux. Shouldn't have too much trouble that way... How do I get in touch with whatshisname (Still can't remember his name)?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2003 2:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, there is a crucial difference between CubeOS and QubeOS... CubeOS is developed by Lukas (and Ryan?) and QubeOS is/was made by Michal Stencl. CubeOS is GPL and QubeOS is propreritary
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